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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2018 20:28:37 GMT
Phoenixruss has left a 1 star review of NLL on Sitejabber. He complains about the chatroom in particular. I hope that Jim doesn't see it and believe everything that he wrote and so decide to get rid of the chatroom.
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Post by vectorman on Mar 14, 2018 9:25:23 GMT
Oh I I'm gonna have to check that out.. Before I go there I'm going for complaints about mods lol, normally is innit. Actually might have already seen that, it's not the review that goes on forever is it?. Goes off on a tangent about something or other, was hard to read it all I'll look... Oh I remember phoenix, had some sympathy for him actually.. Yeah had read it, what on earth can you say to that
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 11:10:57 GMT
4 new reviews on Sitejabber, all very positive and at least 2 of them are definitely from genuine NLL members (as opposed to Jim getting someone to write them (which I suspect is the case with the review by Gary L)).
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Post by vectorman on Mar 17, 2018 9:26:42 GMT
I might have to write my own review. I'd say only one of those was truly genuine or you could at least take seriously and it wasn't exactly heaping praise on the site. They were generous enough to give it five, probably because they think there's no real alternative. Won't say no more than that lol. The other couple could be people having a laugh or as you say hired by Jim or Jim himself.
Can't see the point really, thing is with these site review places they ain't exactly to be trusted are they anyway lol. What's more the genuine reviews for NLL are by people who at times have mental health issues, some quite serious whom are talking to people in the same boat or have a beef with someone.. It's not exactly gonna be as I've said many times, a bed of roses. On the other hand Jim hasn't done as good a job as he could, we all know that..
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Post by vectorman on Mar 17, 2018 11:04:55 GMT
I am writing this, it's a real review of the site.. It's my usual lengthy piece; gonna make sure I miss nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 0:39:55 GMT
I am writing this, it's a real review of the site.. It's my usual lengthy piece; gonna make sure I miss nothing. Please let us know when you post it.
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Post by vectorman on Mar 19, 2018 9:56:40 GMT
Not sure you'll like it Yooz.. I'm going in hard to the deepest depths, the nitty gritty. And yes about the owner as he is the um owner. He'll have to threaten me with legal action afterwards, not like he ain't done it before... What a bloody joke lol
I'll probably run out of words anyway, it's like a documentary piece.
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Post by vectorman on Mar 19, 2018 12:21:40 GMT
If I post this, I'll probably have Jim trying to sue me lol.. Genuinely Thing is not even mentioned the blatantly obvious fake profiles or who could have made them.. Well the moment I saw that some dating plugins had the option to easily create fakes as an option.. I thought OMG what really hahahaha, not saying it could be that you see sometimes but you'd hope not wouldn't you
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 21:24:12 GMT
Not sure you'll like it Yooz.. I'm going in hard to the deepest depths, the nitty gritty. And yes about the owner as he is the um owner. He'll have to threaten me with legal action afterwards, not like he ain't done it before... What a bloody joke lol I'll probably run out of words anyway, it's like a documentary piece. I probably won't mind as long as you don't criticise me too much. Also it would be nice if you could avoid being too harsh about the chatroom, otherwise Jim might consider getting rid of it.
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Post by vectorman on Mar 20, 2018 1:16:01 GMT
Probs gonna have to rejig it quite some bit Yooz. I'm critical of how Jim has run the site really more than anything, is what I've written. His lack of input and care for not just the site generally but it's members. It's to long anyway, you know what I'm like
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Post by vectorman on Mar 21, 2018 16:50:58 GMT
Don't think I'll be posting it, I sense it might cause me more harm than good.. It's too ruddy long anyway, though saying that I am tempted so very very tempted
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Post by psychicvampire on Mar 21, 2018 16:53:18 GMT
4 reviews all on the same day? Looks kinda suspicious more than anything tbh.
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Post by vectorman on Mar 21, 2018 20:28:32 GMT
"I like the site, chatroom is the best. You can always find people who understand your problems. Everyone is friendly, mods are great, Alyona is the best <3". This could be the ultimate in sarcasm for all we know lol
No offence to Aly meant, they could be taking the piss either way.
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Post by vectorman on Mar 21, 2018 20:30:04 GMT
I reckon the funniest thing to do would be to put.. Wonderful, just wonderful
Leave it at that..
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Post by vectorman on Mar 22, 2018 12:28:43 GMT
What to say about NLL? where do you even begin.. Been a member of the site for some time, a good six or seven years. Enough to know that it’s never been run with much in the way of proficiency. That’s not to say I ain’t thankful for the people I have met on the site, that I now consider firm friends. I can fully appreciate the difficulties that come with moderating a site solely dedicated to a community which will have an array of unique sensitivities and opposing views, opinions of the world, beliefs, senses of humour on display. We all know what may offend one person may not offend another etc etc. All of which can be exacerbated when mental illness comes into the fold and can be due sadly for some to life traumas. We are a sensitive people on NLL for many different reasons and you’ll often witness wild exaggerated reactions and opinions, which is all understandable. There’s also the cultural aspect to be considered, coming as we do from all around the globe. Must make for a near impossible job, so yep have some slight sympathy for the owner in that regard. You cannot please all of the people, all of the time.
With that all said above, you’d expect then the owner having claimed to be one of us to have a more hands on approach. That in a community such as this would be a near necessity. So then you can’t excuse the poor irresponsible manner, have to say lackadaisical approach to running the site they’ve taken. They’ve been near enough nonexistent, ever since I’ve been there they have. The crux of the problem stems from the owner who has never been actively involved in his own community. He seems not to have become friends with any regulars, certainly not in any meaningful way that I know of. So how then can we trust him to make a proper sound judgement call or manage the site at all with any degree of competency, if he’s never there to manage it. To see for himself who’s who and where people are coming from?
What makes matters worse is they only ever seem to listen (when they eventually do turn up) to a select few members, very conveniently. Genuine requests or concerns put forward from the community seem to be largely dismissed with a few tried and tested prepared statements for the occasion. “it’s all he said she said” “paranoia” and “toxic”.. Keeps things simple and ticking over how you want it without the need to do sod all if you only ever listen to a select few. Those who largely toe the party line and do thy bidding. Minimum effort for maximum profit is the mantra my friends.
This is the owners way of dealing with pretty much every request or concern coming his way, as NLL is great you know or that’s what he wants people to think who arrive on it’s doorstep. How dare us naysayers say otherwise.. Laughably I and others have even been threatened with legal action for saying he’s doing a poor job.. Which he is btw
The only reason the owner will turn up in most cases, is when NLL is under a heavy barrage of criticism or if the sites reputation is at stake, for that could cost precious money. They then take the easy way out as he does every single time by taking away the sections that these people occupy, and might I add had loved. Couldn’t be seen as getting rid of members out right as that would look bad for him and might cause further implications. Of course he wants their money still too lol (can’t forget that). So the next best thing is ridding the site of these sections entirely, which pretty much does the same job without ever having to lift a sodding finger yet again... Not forgetting to use the word “toxic” or some other handy adjective in the process to cover up this reasoning. It’s a case of “out of sight and out of mind” both his and all those who are gullible enough to pay 40 dollars or whatever it is these days. Why bother to properly address anything if you don’t really have to hey?... Easy money, in the UK they have a name for people like this, a cockney wideboy.
For that reason and pretty much that reason alone (the criticism) he declared the forum “toxic” too. They then followed that up by taking down the story, poem / art and video sections. Then there was the blog where they openly admitted the fact NLL’s reputation (the one in tatters anyway) was at risk, was the reason he must also give that the chop. As this was all on public display. Yes people with mental illness showing they have a mental illness (or being toxic as they’d call it) and behaving like they have a mental illness is the problem. You are/were the problem.. So it’s you who was damaging the sites reputation, it's you who's costing him his chances of making money because you have a mental illness. Yes you are costing him from making money from you; oh the irony. And so what better way to make it a simple as pie money making exercise than getting rid of pretty much the entire site lol.. Make sense don’t it? for you lot are “toxic” nutters.. What a farce lol
And what privilege did they bestow upon us long suffering members having finally given the NLL community the long awaited and promised face lift (not forgetting the site demolition job). That’s right a 3 times price hike... Easy peasy sit on my ass money.. The guilt has been there for all to see, when in their own words they said people might think I’m taking advantage of some of the poorest most troubled, lonely and awfully ill people in the community... He’s right you know, he has. It’s sad to see the amount of members who’ve left, some of which were the cornerstones of the community for many years. Genuinely nice honest people and all due to this lack of care. Not that the owner seems to care, he only cares for one thing sadly or so it would seem.. No guesses
So we’re now left with the chatroom, the only remaining survivor to the NLL cull. Which in no way (as we can see from various reviews here) is any different.. That too has toxicity as he likes to call it whenever there is criticisms of the site or people with mental illness showing they have a mental illness.. The difference is the chatroom is hidden away in a little cubbyhole and resets itself.. So who cares how toxic people are or how much criticism there is right?. If you cannot see it, doesn’t exist.
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